but the same applies to the president on a lot of i can, governor romney saidly do them both. romney said repeatedly even when i interviewed him he doesn't want to talk about what deduct shunts he would scale back or he limb nana, eliminate because that should be done in the open with congress. it is a ridiculous position because then you say well i am not going to say anything i will do because it should all be negotiated in congress in the light of day. voters need to know what kind of deductions will he scale back and david axelrod said the same thing to me in a television interview about social security he said this is not the time to talk about social security. >> rose: on bowles-simpson they don't reallyay out what they disagree with bowles-simpson. they want a gas tax, don't want a gas tax. >> they think the best thing to do, both of them not be specific and somehow they get enough of a mandate to beat the opponent. >> if you are not bold can you ever argue and have a mandate. >> i think the president will have a mandate to raise taxes on the wealthy if he wins and i th